Film discussion - “What We Still Don’t Know”
Eva on Jun 9th 2008 09:47 am
June 7, 2008
The Film - “What We Still Don’t Know”
Recently, on a discussion board, I posted these thoughts about this film, which includes interviews with the following scientists.
Astronomer Royal Sir Martin Rees
Professor Max Tegmark from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Professor John Conway of Princeton University
Neuroscientist Dr Michael Hofman of the Netherlands Institute for Brain Research
Dr Nick Bostrom from Oxford University
There is sort of a statement paper done by Rees, or Channel Four, for those who have not seen it, but want to follow the discussion:
http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/W/what_we_still_dont_
know/textonly/to_arewereal.html
What about the concepts in the film, (dark matter, multiverses, spontaneous duplication and “mindful” creation) specifically offered by highly respected scientists about the order of things as seen through their eyes as they attempt to discover how our world developed? Several prominent scientists/mathematicians, and one journalist/investigator (I suppose that is the best thing to call him) participated. You can find more about the film at:
http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/W/what_we_still_dont_know/
You can find the film itself at:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=what+we+still+don%27t+
As a medium, I’ve been told that we are in the 12th universe, and ours is the 12th God. As I hear more and more of scientists who discover new universes (four was the last count I remember, and it was only one a few years ago - one day, in my incarnated future I would imagine, someone will say “wow, we’ve identified 12 universes now! I wonder why nobody figured that out before!” and science will take credit for it, and I probably won’t remember this - funny!) I think that science is finally catching up to what some mystics, like myself, have been told. They even make a statement like that in the film, which to me, if science were generally more open minded, they’d be asking mystics to ask better questions than what we generally get, like will my marriage last (which of course is valid but may be dependent upon a lot of factors other than “seeing”, so learning the factors is far more important) or will I get money? This I find interesting because eventually, scientists might get open enough to begin to incorporate all of the resources at their disposal instead of compartmentalizing and thinking in “us and them” kind of parameters. In this way, the film is hopeful to me.
If you look at the recurrence of 12 in our world (the film Zeitgeist points this out well) it is uncanny sort of, 12 months, 12 signs of the zodiac, a lot of religious 12s, like disciples and it goes on and on, there is some correlation there that I am unable to make in full, but it is apparent for many of the major systems by which we live. It is those correlations, and signs if you will, that I think need to be explored for us to better understand our existence in languages that various kinds of people might understand. Everyone needs a different learning system, which is why a mathematician might not need or find useful, the same language as a mystic, or at least each of them thinks so. I like this film because in some ways, it is really saying that we do need to put less separation on this, and more cohesion, and look at it from all sides. That is far more rational than lining up in separate camps to me, to what avail?
This is a training ground, this universe. One that prepares us, as spiritual beings, meaning one mechanism of essence that drives all of our activities, moving through a system of multiple lives, to become the ruler, in essence of the next universe. That is how life goes on, and a universe procreates. This God/Architect/Divinity/Head Master, raises the next one of Its kind for the 13th universe and it continues as it has gone .. our own Architect.
In that way, the portion of the documentary that talks about us being part of someone’s big experiment is closest to what I’ve been told. We are not being experimented upon, but we are being guided and observed and trained, to see which one of us will make it through all the tests, on this planet as well as others, in this dimension as well as others, to become this next universal leader. Not really a contest, and yet it is. The Matrix is so much closer to the way it is than we might give it credit for being, except it is not likely that any group will be looking for “The One”, but that we are being guided by “This One” in order for it to develop “The Next One”.
Think also about the hints we get from competition and why we must learn this tool as a mechanism for our growth, so that we can stay in the game and progress toward our inherent goal, and yet to progress, we cannot be distorted by it either. So it would seem like we are being toyed with, but we are not. It is simply the system by which our Architect decided She would run His school. Hence the title of my book, The Next God
In that manner, it is interesting to see these scientists trying to reconstruct the systems that develop this experimental world, lab maybe, as they struggle with their straight scientific minds, being shifted, and try and work out the larger implications. We are so low level on this totem pole, and as I’ve been told, the only logical vehicle for this kind of growth would have to be repetitive lessons, due to the short lifespan of the bodies our essence, or spirit must endure and utilize in order to learn enough to make a graduation. It is apparent that we are not all on the same level in maturity, so it makes sense that we are developing at different rates of speed and understanding, even within our own disciplines. It puts it in perspective in some ways, and the film supports it to some degree, the big picture. Even the maturity level of these scientists, as opposed to some others who would never contemplate the same kinds of issues in their lives, because they lack the emotional maturity, and from what I know, are too young in their reincarnations to begin to think more maturely.
We do not develop evenly because we are not all the same, incarnated age, along with many other factors.
Yet as with medicine, as long as science cannot think more holistically and see the really big picture, it will struggle with small pieces as it tries to prove them one by one, as allopathic medicine has become highly effective in emergency care, but highly ineffective in preventive care because it has disected (sp) the big picture down to the interactions of such minutia that often it kills the body as it concentrates on that one part. Science too must see the big picture first, so it can prove the theories that those scientists are struggling to understand, and thus the people they serve might understand, according to their maturity level.
I am fascinated with how close they are, as they struggle against themselves for greater understanding, in the face of disbelief. What will it take for them to break away so they can find new ground? One of them appears to be almost free of his pre-conceived confines, possibly because incarnated age, physical age, and imminent death, makes your mind more open and your fear of reprisals reduce. I know it does for me. It will work in any level of science too if the mind leads with openness, so that the theories will come through without the blockage of assuming one knows.
Watching this film makes me hopeful that such an ordered mind, is capable of true free thought as well, even when struggling. If so, maybe there is better collective maturity and movement as well.
People are fascinating!
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